A crappy soft reboot that was the most disappointing in the franchise since The Phantom Menace.
Star Wars: The Force Awakens (2015) - 3 outta 5 stars
Surely Attack of the Clones was the most disappointing since The Phantom Menace 🤔
I actually like AOTC better than TFA. The action in it was better and the story was original. Of course it had problems, namely the godawful dialogue writing.
I'd like to point out that TFA as a stand alone movie, as in pretending no other SW movies exist, is actually a fine film. Witty, funny, dark at times, and some decent action. But when you throw in the other films, especially ANH, then you see that the movie brought NOTHING original to the table as far as story telling goes and that is what makes it such a disappointing addition to the series.
@movie_nazi said:
I'd like to point out that TFA as a stand alone movie, as in pretending no other SW movies exist, is actually a fine film. Witty, funny, dark at times, and some decent action. But when you throw in the other films, especially ANH, then you see that the movie brought NOTHING original to the table as far as story telling goes and that is what makes it such a disappointing addition to the series.
While that is true, it doesn't ruin it for me. To me, it's like The Spy Who Loved Me, which was basically a remake of You Only Live Twice ten years later but it was still an awesome movie in it's own right.
While that is true, it doesn't ruin it for me. To me, it's like The Spy Who Loved Me, which was basically a remake of You Only Live Twice ten years later but it was still an awesome movie in it's own right.
Ah, a Bond film comparison. Nice! IMO those are straight up remakes just like Thunderball and Never Say Never Again. They don't try to pass themselves off as original material. When you think of the pool of creativity the producers at Disney had to pull from when you think about Extended Universe and just the endless possibilities writers can explore when it comes to Star Wars, it is quite disappointing when all they do is a remake. Then they try to pass it off as original which is doubly insulting.
I'd like to point out that TFA as a stand alone movie, as in pretending no other SW movies exist, is actually a fine film.
I honestly think there's nothing wrong with doing just that. That's exactly how I came to accept the prequels - just view them as a different take on the "Star Wars" concept.
It's only really the fact that the films are prefixed "Episode whatever" which forces us to make inflated demands of what these films should be, when, in reality - whether in the OT, PT or ST periods - they've have only ever really been fashioned as contemporary blockbusters. Even Lucas didn't focus on making his stories match up...
It's only really the fact that the films are prefixed "Episode whatever" which forces us to make inflated demands of what these films should be, when, in reality - whether in the OT, PT or ST periods - they've have only ever really been fashioned as contemporary blockbusters. Even Lucas didn't focus on making his stories match up...
Lucas focused on originality and telling new stories. This is why the prequels for all of their flaws are superior films to TFA (except maybe Phantom Menace).
BarkingBaphomet 的回复
于 2017 年 08 月 23 日 7:49下午
i think it's terrific.
Heisenberg12 的回复
于 2017 年 08 月 24 日 1:52上午
This was bad.
Midi-chlorian_Count 的回复
于 2017 年 08 月 24 日 3:59上午
Surely Attack of the Clones was the most disappointing since The Phantom Menace 🤔
movie_nazi 的回复
于 2017 年 08 月 24 日 10:37上午
I actually like AOTC better than TFA. The action in it was better and the story was original. Of course it had problems, namely the godawful dialogue writing.
Jan El Señor 的回复
于 2017 年 08 月 24 日 11:20上午
I liked TFA. But I agree that AOTC was better.
movie_nazi 的回复
于 2017 年 08 月 24 日 11:24上午
I'd like to point out that TFA as a stand alone movie, as in pretending no other SW movies exist, is actually a fine film. Witty, funny, dark at times, and some decent action. But when you throw in the other films, especially ANH, then you see that the movie brought NOTHING original to the table as far as story telling goes and that is what makes it such a disappointing addition to the series.
Jan El Señor 的回复
于 2017 年 08 月 24 日 11:32上午
While that is true, it doesn't ruin it for me. To me, it's like The Spy Who Loved Me, which was basically a remake of You Only Live Twice ten years later but it was still an awesome movie in it's own right.
movie_nazi 的回复
于 2017 年 08 月 24 日 11:43上午
Ah, a Bond film comparison. Nice! IMO those are straight up remakes just like Thunderball and Never Say Never Again. They don't try to pass themselves off as original material. When you think of the pool of creativity the producers at Disney had to pull from when you think about Extended Universe and just the endless possibilities writers can explore when it comes to Star Wars, it is quite disappointing when all they do is a remake. Then they try to pass it off as original which is doubly insulting.
Midi-chlorian_Count 的回复
于 2017 年 08 月 24 日 3:47下午
I honestly think there's nothing wrong with doing just that. That's exactly how I came to accept the prequels - just view them as a different take on the "Star Wars" concept.
It's only really the fact that the films are prefixed "Episode whatever" which forces us to make inflated demands of what these films should be, when, in reality - whether in the OT, PT or ST periods - they've have only ever really been fashioned as contemporary blockbusters. Even Lucas didn't focus on making his stories match up...
movie_nazi 的回复
于 2017 年 08 月 24 日 6:40下午
Lucas focused on originality and telling new stories. This is why the prequels for all of their flaws are superior films to TFA (except maybe Phantom Menace).