So he decides to buy the house that the bank foreclose on leaving poor Ma Martha on the streets. Why didn't he help her out before Superman came back?
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Reply by gspgreases
on April 1, 2018 at 9:56 AM
How was he supposed to know she was in financial troubles. She had a job, farm and probably insurance money
Reply by movie_nazi
on April 1, 2018 at 10:19 AM
Please. Bruce Wayne knows EVERYTHING. You ain't know? Dude keeps tabs, especially on someone's family who he feels extraordinary guilty for his death. You think it didn't cross his mind on how his (Superman's) family is doing after his death that he thinks he caused? Especially for a guy who lost his close family at a very young age which affected him profoundly, you bet your ass he thought about it. Heck, ask anyone who ever killed someone (police, military, accident) if they ever thought about their family and you would be hard-pressed to find a single one who said he hadn't. It probably is the biggest contributor of PTSD, the guilt, except most of them are not gazillionaires like Bruce Wayne.
Reply by cpheonix
on April 2, 2018 at 6:55 PM
I have to say it did bother me how they kept stressing how rich Bruce Wayne is but maybe it took a while for him to buy the bank??
But yeah, he knows everything and considering how guilty he felt about Superman's death, he should have known about Martha's situation. Oh yeah, and the fact that his mother had the same name (ugh).
Serious question though; not sure if I missed it but what was the time gap between BvS and this?
Reply by movie_nazi
on April 2, 2018 at 7:02 PM
BWAHAHAHAHA!
I thought that was corny as well.
Hmmm, I got the impression that it was almost immediately, if not a couple months, after his death. The reason being is because this is what supposedly triggered Steppenwolf (a half baked character IMO) to attack Earth, Superman's death.
Reply by cpheonix
on April 2, 2018 at 7:19 PM
Whatever anyone says about BvS, good or bad, no-one can deny that was a seriously stupid plot point!
Ah OK thanks :) yes I remember the triggered bit of Steppenwolf (I agree, a cardboard cutout supervillian), but I wasn't sure how much time had elapsed exactly. I asked mainly because Superman's corpse was still in pristine condition (probs because he's an alien I suspect though) and the statue of superman was still destroyed.
But I also asked because if it was a short period of time (say a few days) it would tenuously answer the OP's question in that Bruce always knew about Martha's financial situation. It just conveniently took up until Superman was brought back to life for the sale of the bank to go through...
Reply by movie_nazi
on April 2, 2018 at 8:00 PM
Well, the reason Superman's body was in pristine condition is because he really wasn't completely dead. More like in a coma. This is seen at the very end of BvS when you see the ground rumble around his grave.
I think he could have simply given Louis Lane the dough to give to Martha. The fact that he bought the bank was just their silly attempt to be smarmy. Like, "Huh huh huh, Bruce Wayne buy the house? Yeah right! That MFer be buying the bank! Now THAT'S pimpin'!" .![rolling_eyes](/assets/emojis/v8/1f644.svg)
Reply by HAL 9010'
on April 3, 2018 at 10:16 AM
Agree with everything you say. But I would speculate that even if Superman was dead, like Zod, his body will remain in pristine condition because nothing except kryptontie can have any effect on his molekyles. Zod too is in great condition in BvS and he surly is dead. Of course the internal processes stops and we must assume internally it will be ... sluggish, but I am not sure we would ever experience a breakdown. What do you think?
Reply by movie_nazi
on April 3, 2018 at 11:48 AM
Actually, that is a great point and I can't argue with it. Plus it does explain why Zod's body is not rotting as well.
Reply by HAL 9010'
on April 4, 2018 at 8:22 AM
... if we take the idea further: when the body stops getting energy (be it from yellow sun light, food, oxygen etc*) the molecules will (or should) ultimately fall apart? ... so actually, in time his body would decay. Not by bacteria feeding off it, but more like the molecules simply stop sticking together like they used to do..... so we could rationalize that eventually the corpse will decay in some form... sort of slowly liquefy.
On the other hand, I kind of like the idea of it just remaining as it was. His physique is after all immensely strong, so when it comes down to it I guess it could go either way... it just takes long - like decades, centres or even millennia.
*Note: the comics seem to disagree on how much Superman need of food and energy. And it seem sunlight would be enough.... but I dare say, some form of energy has to be added to maintain his strength. On the other hand, if he is dead, he uses no energy and so perhaps the stored energy there is enough to keep him pristine for a very long long time, before the above mentioned molecule decay even begin to slowly set in....
I feel a conclusion is pointing in the direction that his corpse will remain pristine to almost eternity. :)
Reply by movie_nazi
on April 4, 2018 at 3:04 PM
HA! Except I have seen a comic of Superman like a thousand years in the future and he was starting to look old so he will eventually rot and die. This was what turned me off from the Superman comic as a kid. He was just too darn powerful.
Reply by Costumers
on June 3, 2018 at 10:23 PM
@cpheonix said:
BWAHAHAHAHA! 🤣 I thought that was corny as well.
It was a stupid plot point. But it is a fact from the comics, that Martha Kent is Clark's adopted mother and Martha Wayne was Bruce's mother. Completely coincidental, but accurate.
Reply by movie_nazi
on June 4, 2018 at 10:25 AM
Yep, I think Snyder was like, "Whoa! we can use this!" . (jerk off motion) I tried my darndest to defend the guy because I loved his work on 300 and Watchmen but he really has dropped the ball with the DC films.
Reply by Costumers
on June 5, 2018 at 9:05 PM
You are likely correct. Why he thought it was a good plot point baffles me.