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I saw both and the director's cut makes the movie a lot better as it fills in several gaps in the plot that are left out in the theatrical version...unfortunately it doesn't remove the Martha equation.

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i thought it was worse in that it made the experience last even longer.

indeed when watching it in theaters i had a couple WTF moments. Those questions were answered on dvd unfortunately. Plus the dvd gave more Clark kent scenes which i enjoyed

I preferred the director's cut. Some scenes were fleshed out a little more which helped explain a few things. I generally prefer the DC over the theatrical version for most, if not all, movies because it's the version the director had originally intended before it got edited for runtime or R/PG ratings.

The directors cut is much better - fills in plenty of gaps (not that there were any insurmountable gaps), and although longer it arguably improves the overall pacing.

The Martha thing never really bothered me that much - "Mother" or "Mom" - would have been a better way to humanise him though.

The only scene that really seemed weird (to me) was the candy popping - it wasn't a "you'll take it and you'll like it" situation - the guy was falling over himself to give Luther everything he wanted anyway... perhaps if there had been a scene establishing Luthor's leverage over him (something other than plain old money) it would have made sense.

@Joe79 said:

The Martha thing never really bothered me that much - "Mother" or "Mom" - would have been a better way to humanise him though.

You know, I haven't really thought about this movie at all since I watched it, but I would have to say that I couldn't agree more. Considerable criticism--mostly from comic book nerds--was leveled at the "Martha" moment. It would have been much more poignant and real had Superman simply cried out to Batman to save his "mother." That could have led to the revelation that he was raised by humans, connecting him emotionally to our plight and allowing Batman to see that Superman might not be the threat that he imagined. It's unfortunate that the filmmakers couldn't see that the simplest ideas might be the best.

@BarkingBaphomet said:

i thought it was worse in that it made the experience last even longer.

QFT

@gspgreases said:

indeed when watching it in theaters i had a couple WTF moments. Those questions were answered on dvd unfortunately. Plus the dvd gave more Clark kent scenes which i enjoyed

I just watched the Director's Cut despite having owned a copy of it since it came out on Apple TV, thus a month before the official DVD release (I got bored, and decided to watch it finally). I still have questions, like why was the Government blaming the deaths in Nairomi on Superman when an armed American Drone was sent to destroy the village anyway (damned the casualties)? If they were trying to keep it a secret, why let the Senate subcommittee keep up the investigation? Also, the men of Nairomi were killed by bullets not fire. Surely the CIA would have investigated and know this. It doesn't make any sense. This wasn't a minor issue, the whole movie hinged on the Senate believing that it was Superman that killed the men in Nairomi.

Unfortunately they still have Lex Loser in it so not really that much better

@BarkingBaphomet said:

i thought it was worse in that it made the experience last even longer.

Absolutely. How can you take two iconic characters (my all time favourites) and turn this into a turd fest?

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