Diskuse o Avengers: Endgame

....quit since they were only paid around fifty million a movie. Were they playing hard to get?

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Evans is a good actor & all but hardly considered A-List..his salary (along with Hemsworth) was 15-20 million for BOTH Inifinity War & End Game...now RDJ indeed was getting paid WAYYYY too much...his payday was $75 million (including back end profits) for Inifinity War & has yet to be determined for EndGame! He reportedly made $5 mill a day for 3 days worth of shooting for Spider Man Homecoming..insane! From a corporate standpoint, I say GOOD RIDDANCE! RDJ's gotta be the most bummed he won't be making these anymore, so better spend wisely and stay away from those drugs!

I'm going to say that I am glad that he is gone, given his character was allowed to dominate in every ensemble MCU film that he was in.

I really enjoyed Endgame but will always struggle with the idea that Iron Man was able to wield all the stones and not die instantly.

Now that it is clear that actors like Brie Larson and Chadwick Boseman can deliver billion dollar box office for a fraction of the fee, RDJ is not longer required imo. Time to let others breathe.

Give me a break! RDJ appeared in 10 movies for Marvel in 11 years (Iron Man, a cameo in The Incredible Hulk, Iron Man 2, The Avengers, Iron Man 3, Age of Ultron, Civil War, Spider-Man Homecoming, Infinity War and Endgame) and during that time, he has had to decline many other projects, including the third chapter of his 'Sherlock Holmes' trilogy.

Similarly, Chris Evans has appeared in 9 films for Marvel in 8 years (Captain America The First Avenger, The Avengers, a brief cameo in Thor The Dark World, The Winter Soldier, Age of Ultron, Civil War, a cameo in Spider-Man Homecoming, Infinity War and Endgame)

Don't you think that after doing this kind of yeoman's work for a franchise, putting that franchise first and turning down other projects, that an actor has the right to move on and do other things?

Neither of these actors ever promised to continue making MCU films until they die, they fulfilled their contract with Marvel and were happy to leave on a strong note, as is their right.

I don't remember anyone complaining when Hugh Jackson decided to quit playing Wolverine.

Just my opinion - some are bound to disagree...

It's greed on a phenomenal scale. It's brutal and it's right in the fans' faces. People tend to dismiss the greed at the higher end of Hollywood because they like going to see all these superhero films - "I love Tony Stark! - I cried when he died, Downey is so amazing" (whatever - Downey couldn't care less what you think) but if you look at the facts - the A list greed (which also includes the producers and directors) is as bad as anything going in wall street, other businesses or politics.

It's not enough for an actor to be paid 10 - 20 mill once they keep coming back for more! James Bond actor Daniel Craig was actually honest and admitted he'd only return to Bond for the money. He said it and he got criticism but unlike Downey Jnr - who I doubt gives a damn about comic book movies (hence why he used to appear in more indie type films) - Craig admitted he's only doing another Bond film for the money. He couldn't give a damn about the franchise.

At some point you don't need 100 million because you can only spend time in one mansion or drive one super expensive sportscar or fly on one private jet at one time of the day. You can't use other mansions and other cars and other planes and other restaurants so it kinda becomes meaningless. No human on this planet needs 100 million. I can't see that anyone does. I'm not saying all capitalism is bad, but capitalism has no social conscience. It doesn't care if poor people are kept poor and the super rich remain super rich. Downey Jnr gets paid millions for learning a few lines per day and saying them in front of a green screen. Is he worth 75 mill per film? No way. That's totally out of whack with the real world!

Chris Hemsworth has lost Hollywood studios millions of dollars outside Thor/Avengers. Same is true of Ryan Reynolds. His A list career would have been over had it not been for Deadpool. They've starred in many bombs. Hensworth has not had a hit film when he's not playing Thor. It's a perverse system where you fail many times but if you get one hit and stick with it (Thor) Hollywood will forgive you. Be interesting to see if Hemsworth can break out of his Thor success and have a hit with MIB. Based on his past record, it looks doubtful. MIB could be a major bomb. Also - no Will Smith which makes it less appealing, perhaps.

@MrsBuckyBarnes said:

I'm going to say that I am glad that he is gone, given his character was allowed to dominate in every ensemble MCU film that he was in.

I really enjoyed Endgame but will always struggle with the idea that Iron Man was able to wield all the stones and not die instantly.

Now that it is clear that actors like Brie Larson and Chadwick Boseman can deliver billion dollar box office for a fraction of the fee, RDJ is not longer required imo. Time to let others breathe.

let's get real, neither of those actors delivered anything. Boseman was outshone by Michael b Jordan in his own movie. Even Okoye and Mbaku were more interesting characters. Larson was outshone by a cat.

Of all the people I've seen praise those films, I don't think I have anyone ever rave about Chadwick Boseman or Brie Larson's performance. People turned out to see the first black solo MCU movie and the first female solo MCU movie. That is not going to last very long. When the novelty has worn off, you will actually have to write good stories and compelling characters to get people to go see the movies.

Of the remaining characters, Doctor Strange, Spiderman and the Guardians are the most compelling. Even the Falcon has more charisma than Captain Marvel or Black Panther.

@fan_of_films said:

It's not enough for an actor to be paid 10 - 20 mill once they keep coming back for more! James Bond actor Daniel Craig was actually honest and admitted he'd only return to Bond for the money. He said it and he got criticism but unlike Downey Jnr - who I doubt gives a damn about comic book movies (hence why he used to appear in more indie type films) - Craig admitted he's only doing another Bond film for the money. He couldn't give a damn about the franchise.

No one is stupid enough to believe Daniel Craig or Robert Downey Jr or any other actors work for free. Daniel Craig (despite your sycophantic gibberish) still comes across as a grade A idiot for telling us what we and any other fandom already knows.

The Guardians I don't actually find all that compelling, there's a reason Thor is shoved into almost most of their scenes from now on. Drax, Thor and perhaps the raccoon are the true MVPs of the Guardians.

Drax has become too ridiculous for my liking. He's just a pure buffoon now. Rocket is definitely the best character. That's why he was the only one to survive along with Nebula. I think Nebula could also be great, but she hasn't had that much story time up to this point. Groot and Mantis are good B charactes. And Gamora and Nebula's relationship is interesting. Peter Quill was good in the first Guardians movie, but since then he has gone downhill. His arc was the least interesting part of Guardians 2, and he was a childish idiot in Infinity War. In Endgame all he did was get kicked in the balls.

@fan_of_films said:

Just my opinion - some are bound to disagree...

It's greed on a phenomenal scale.

Everyone always thinks that when anyone else earns a lot of money, it is greed, but that your own money is legitimately earned and not a byproduct of greed. It's total hypocrisy.

We see the same thing from champagne socialists like Bernie Sanders, who is a millionaire who owns 3 houses and is a member of the 1%. Whenever anyone asks him how he can justify having so much money, being so wealthy while ranting about 'income inequality' he responds by saying that he legitimately earned all his money and should have a right to keep it. No OTHER millionaire earned their money legitimately or has a right to keep it, ONLY Bernie Sanders. It is hypocrisy and dishonesty on a phenomenal scale.

I know that hating people who have more money than you is supposed to be 'cool', but I've never been one for that, I don't begrudge anyone the money they have, as long as they earn it legally.

As for RDJ, he IS responsible for helping launch a franchise that has earned $18 BILLION so far and for keeping it profitable, I don't think it is at all unreasonable for him to say 'I helped you earn $18 billion, I want less than 1/10 of 1% of that amount back.' I don't think that is greedy at all.

@jorgito2001 said:

RDJ's gotta be the most bummed he won't be making these anymore, so better spend wisely and stay away from those drugs!

Yes, RDJ had his demons but he fought them and won. You can't actually believe he's still on drugs . You can't actually believe he'd be getting paid millions of dollars to be in a big budget movie if he was still doing drugs. And to top that off, whose to say he won't be in another one? IT'S A MOVIE FRANCHISE! Anything can happen.

RDJ already has several other movies in the pipeline, including the third movie in Guy Ritchie's Sherlock Holmes franchise. And in fact, he has been turning down and delaying projects for years due to his commitment to the MCU.

So the idea that he won't have a career after quitting the MCU is frankly ridiculous. He will be busy,. He put in his 11 years, fulfilled the terms of his contract and he has the right to move on.

And as a fan of that Sherlock Holmes franchise, I'm happy to hear that the cliffhanger from the second film will finally be resolved. It's been long enough.

@A to Z said:

The Guardians I don't actually find all that compelling, there's a reason Thor is shoved into almost most of their scenes from now on. Drax, Thor and perhaps the raccoon are the true MVPs of the Guardians.

Drax has become too ridiculous for my liking. He's just a pure buffoon now. Rocket is definitely the best character. That's why he was the only one to survive along with Nebula. I think Nebula could also be great, but she hasn't had that much story time up to this point. Groot and Mantis are good B charactes. And Gamora and Nebula's relationship is interesting. Peter Quill was good in the first Guardians movie, but since then he has gone downhill. His arc was the least interesting part of Guardians 2, and he was a childish idiot in Infinity War. In Endgame all he did was get kicked in the balls.

Have you read the comics? Drax has ALWAYS been a buffoon. In fact, the movie version of Drax is actually smarter than the comics version. In the comics, he can't even remember anyone else's name! For example, he call Gamora "the pretty green skinned lady" and Gamora constantly reminds him "my name is Gamora!"

ARe you sure those were pre-movie Drax comics? I thought he was space hulk. Hulk is dumb, but that's not the same as a buffoon. He calls valkyrie "angry girl".

DRAX IS A CUTE COMBO OF DUMB AND EGOTISTICAL...IN MY BOOK THAT EQUALS BUFFOON AND DRAX MAKES TOTAL SENSE.

@A to Z said:

ARe you sure those were pre-movie Drax comics? I thought he was space hulk. Hulk is dumb, but that's not the same as a buffoon. He calls valkyrie "angry girl".

Drax has been dumb since his first appearance in Iron Man 55 in 1973 (the same issue that introduced Thanos). Drax was introduced as a somewhat crazy fanatic who is obsessed with killing Thanos, for no apparent reason. After his initial appearance, he gradually got dumber and dumber until, by Infinity War (1992) he became so dumb that he was basically the comic relief. Before he and Gamora became members of the GOTG in 2008, they were both members of the Infinity Watch, which a superhero team lead by Adam Warlock who were responsible for protecting the Infinity Stones. Infinity Watch were basically a team of morons because Adam Warlock wanted them to be unlikely guardians of the Infinity Stones, Adam intentionally gave the stones to the least likely people.

Well I still don't like his character. Even if he is dumber in the comics.

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