answer - thanos kills iron man with his gloves

Actually, Iron Man killed Thanos with one of Thanos' gloves; Tony just couldn't take the kickback or whatever from the damn glove and it killed him.

On a side note: I've been wondering, did Tony really need to die? Or was it nothing more than pragmatism on the part of Marvel

@CelluloidFan said:

Actually, Iron Man killed Thanos with one of Thanos' gloves; Tony just couldn't take the kickback or whatever from the damn glove and it killed him.

On a side note: I've been wondering, did Tony really need to die? Or was it nothing more than pragmatism on the part of Marvel

They've pretty much already established that normal people can't handle using the infinity stones individually, and powerful ones can barely handle all of them. Both Thanos and the Hulk were burned badly while doing/undoing the snap. There's was no way that Tony (a normal human) could have survived doing his own snap. Tony died because RDJs contract was up and his agent kept negotiating higher and higher paychecks for each subsequent film he did past it (reports say he was paid $75 million just for Endgame). Sooner or later that relationship had to end.

@Innovator said:

@CelluloidFan said:

Actually, Iron Man killed Thanos with one of Thanos' gloves; Tony just couldn't take the kickback or whatever from the damn glove and it killed him.

On a side note: I've been wondering, did Tony really need to die? Or was it nothing more than pragmatism on the part of Marvel

They've pretty much already established that normal people can't handle using the infinity stones individually, and powerful ones can barely handle all of them. Both Thanos and the Hulk were burned badly while doing/undoing the snap. There's was no way that Tony (a normal human) could have survived doing his own snap.

Right... I think it was stated in the film that there was radiation involved with using the stones and that's what killed him. I knew all that, but thanks. Peter Quill is what? Half-human and half-titan, and that's what played a hand in his surviving holding one stone in Guardians.

Tony died because RDJs contract was up and his agent kept negotiating higher and higher paychecks for each subsequent film he did past it (reports say he was paid $75 million just for Endgame). Sooner or later that relationship had to end.

That's kind of what I was getting at, but also the narrative of the film seemed to set Stark up as this irredeemable guy. I mean, Iron Man had already stacked the cards against him as being narcissistic, a playboy, etc. But this film seems to do even more of that, IIRC.

@CelluloidFan said:

... I mean, Iron Man had already stacked the cards against him as being narcissistic, a playboy, etc. But this film seems to do even more of that, IIRC.

I believe this film showed Tony cracking time travel, after he decided to put his mind to it...

@Midi-chlorian_Count said:

@CelluloidFan said:

... I mean, Iron Man had already stacked the cards against him as being narcissistic, a playboy, etc. But this film seems to do even more of that, IIRC.

I believe this film showed Tony cracking time travel, after he decided to put his mind to it...

It did. It did, even if the explanation for how he did it felt a bit unsatisfactory. The film even portrays him as a loving father... but I'm sticking to my guns... unfortunately, I don't have time right this moment to wrack my brain for examples of what I'm referring to... maybe later.

@CelluloidFan said:

@Midi-chlorian_Count said:

@CelluloidFan said:

... I mean, Iron Man had already stacked the cards against him as being narcissistic, a playboy, etc. But this film seems to do even more of that, IIRC.

I believe this film showed Tony cracking time travel, after he decided to put his mind to it...

It did. It did, even if the explanation for how he did it felt a bit unsatisfactory. The film even portrays him as a loving father... but I'm sticking to my guns... unfortunately, I don't have time right this moment to wrack my brain for examples of what I'm referring to... maybe later.

I think what I meant earlier is that the franchise set Stark up as kind of a "bad boy," film after film & this one sort of pounded a final nail in the coffin. You know, take the scene where he drives up to Steve blasting the music in his car... it's like they're saying, "Tony won't change, he won't grow up like Banner obviously did." And so, he's got to go.