SPOILERS Does the original film end the same way?
As in who ever was playing Bradley Cooper's character kill himself in order for the Lady Gaga character to go on with her career and take it to the next level?
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Svar af genplant29
d. 1 july 2019 kl. 8:53 AM
It's been five or so years since I last watched the 1937 original (I haven't seen the Gaga remake). As I recall, the severely alcoholic husband (whose name is Norman Maine) of main character Esther (she's professionally known as Vicki Lester) drowns himself, in an act of self-sacrifice, knowing that she'll be better off with him out of the picture. It wasn't really so her character could take her career to the next level (she's already the #1 female movie star), instead was to free Esther of the ongoing burden and responsibility of having to deal with his self-destruction. He knew (if I recall correctly) that she was intending to give up her career so she could devote her life to looking after him.
Incidentally, 1932's What Price Hollywood? https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/56724-what-price-hollywood?language=en-US tells a near identical overall story. In that movie, the husband character commits suicide by shooting himself.
Svar af Michelle_Dessler
d. 1 july 2019 kl. 11:35 AM
SPOILERS It does end the same way as @genplant29 noted above, but he committed suicide in a different way in the new version.
Svar af MrCharmingMan
d. 1 july 2019 kl. 8:41 PM
Thanks @genplant29 so in the GAGA version Bradley Cooper hangs himself but it wasn't all that bad in terms of his self destruction. i mean they were actually getting along and he just completed a rehab program. what made him decide to kill himself was Gaga's manager told him to get out of the picture so she could take her career to the next level. The manager said you are holding her back but she loves you too much to tell you herself. So Bradley then all of a sudden decides to kill himself after the manager basically tells him to get out of the picture.
Again in this movie it was actually stabilizing and getting back to a more normal relationship for Bradley and Gaga, which made it more shocking. I mean things were improving its not like Bradley F'd up bad the night before or anything, just the manager telling him to get lost, made him kill himself.
To me that seemed odd that someone who has a drinking problem and suicidal thoughts would end up killing himself after completing a rehab program and while things were getting the best they have ever been just because a douchey hollywood producer said to get lost? Did anyone else have a problem with this?
Svar af MrCharmingMan
d. 1 july 2019 kl. 8:44 PM
@Michelle_Dessler thanks I jut had a problem with him killing himself right after successfully completing rehab and when things finally got the best they ever were between him and GAGA. It like didn't fit the story to me. It was like he finally seemed to get better and realize hey i found a great woman who cares about me and she's even starting to blow up now too, shoot she can even be the breadwinner of this family, and she's my F'n wife. But no the douchey hollywood manager convinced me to kill myself right when everything was going well and the best its ever been?
Svar af MrCharmingMan
d. 3 july 2019 kl. 1:04 AM
Now thats all way too deep for a 10PM response lol. Maybe I'll read that over tomorrow morning or something lol.
Svar af Oduntola
d. 17 oktober 2019 kl. 5:32 PM
That's the idea behind ALL the versions of this movie: a rising star crosses paths with a star in decline. Same for the Garland version; and the Streisand version.
Svar af MrCharmingMan
d. 21 oktober 2019 kl. 3:21 PM
Thats so depressing tho?
Svar af Philippe LeMarchand
d. 22 oktober 2019 kl. 6:43 AM
It's because he knew that he would relapse and drag the woman he loved down with him and so she'd be better off without him in the long run.
I don't think it was as clear in the 2018 version but the "star" character publicly takes her dead husband's for the first time, acknowledging his sacrifice and how much she still loves him in front of the world. There's a reason why it's known as a tear-jerker!
Svar af Oduntola
d. 22 oktober 2019 kl. 9:10 AM
"Thats so depressing tho?"
Depressing but could be seen as redeeming also: That in order for the new to truly thrive, some of the the old has to die off. Kind of like a basic rule in nature.
Svar af MrCharmingMan
d. 22 oktober 2019 kl. 2:11 PM
I get that, but if I was an addict, which I'm not so I can't speak on that really, but if I was and I found the love of my life later on and she made me happy and fulfilled, then you BET I'm stop my addiction issues, because in my mind that hole is now fulfilled with the new woman of my dreams. She now fills that void, or even the new goal of helping her succeed and take over so i can just kick back and lay low.
I'd love to be Kelly Ripa's husband lol. Let her get all the fame, money and I just stay home with the kids or hire a nanny and I'd just do my true passions or hobbies lol. But I think her kids are all grown up now too even better lol.
Svar af Philippe LeMarchand
d. 22 oktober 2019 kl. 3:56 PM
If addicts were that logical, they probably wouldn't have got addicted in the first place!
As for your "plan" with Kelly Ripa: I thought I was pretty smart with Mme LeMarchand, whose kids were already housebroken when we got together. I forgot that one day they'd be having their own kids...