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Is the first person to die black again?
DRDMovieMusingsSTAFFMOD 发布于 2017 年 03 月 24 日 10:48上午
Oy.
Oy.
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day245 的回复
于 2017 年 03 月 25 日 2:02下午
No, racist. Should've been though
DRDMovieMusings 的回复
于 2017 年 03 月 25 日 9:56下午
Ignoring the name-calling for a sec, why should it have been?
Letthewookiewin 的回复
于 2017 年 03 月 25 日 10:41下午
Agreed. He couldn't even give his buddies a heads up about his leg??
Renovatio 的回复
于 2017 年 03 月 26 日 5:11上午
I think Hugh didn't mention the leg on purpose... he secretly wanted the martian to survive... he even justifies it during that scene before they discover it's on his leg... he says something like it is just trying to do what all life does, to survive, etc...
Hugh is a misanthrope, feels betrayed by his lot in life not being able to walk and is too detached from humanity/pseudo-objective not to recognise that he has a stake to be on the human/earthling side of this conflict.
Even in the massage/physio-therapy scene there is a double meaning when he talks about being able to fix this, i.e. cure his legs instead of the more literal meaning of what they were discussing. His hope was to use martian life to make himself whole again. I think later in the movie after he realises how advanced the martian life is, he basically gives up on humanity.
He didn't seem to have anyone back on earth that he cared for (unlike Sho) or a sense of loyalty (unlike Rory) or duty (unlike Miranda), or a love of humanity (unlike Ekatrina) or a moral appreciation of avoiding suffering (unlike David). He had all of the science, but was emotionally and morally stunted.
I think it's great that they avoided two cliches in this movie. The first they avoided was the "black guy dies first" cliche. The second cliche they avoided was the "black guy is magical/entirely noble/flawless/mary sue". In this movie, the black guy is a human being just like everyone else, with good points and flaws and is a full character. He is the smartest character, but does, arguably, the worst thing. It's interesting and nuanced. I like it.
Letthewookiewin 的回复
于 2017 年 03 月 26 日 9:59上午
I agree he didn't tell them on purpose, I'm just saying its fucked up of him. I mean yea, it sucks that he's been handicapped but its no excuse to literally destroy all life on earth.
Renovatio 的回复
于 2017 年 03 月 26 日 10:07上午
Totally agree with you... a friend who watched it with me was entirely on his side and said she could relate to him! Insane move...
Next time we take a boat ride I'll make sure she's not in charge of anything important... haha
DRDMovieMusings 的回复
于 2017 年 03 月 26 日 11:23上午
Thank you - this is the kind of content for which I was looking.
FlyingSaucersAreReal 的回复
于 2017 年 03 月 29 日 1:40上午
Actually, now that I think about it, he might not have known it was there. He couldn't feel his legs. They were paralyzed.
Lars Wadefalk 的回复
于 2017 年 06 月 03 日 7:00下午
Here we go.
Letthewookiewin 的回复
于 2017 年 06 月 04 日 1:04上午
I think he clearly realized Calvin was there. He looks down and sees movement under his pants.
Mrsalty 的回复
于 2017 年 06 月 05 日 5:10上午
That's just part of being a guy with a hot female doctor.
cpheonix 的回复
于 2017 年 06 月 09 日 7:26上午
Lol
But seriously, he didn't know Calvin was there. He was also in and out of consciousness.
FlyingSaucersAreReal 的回复
于 2017 年 06 月 09 日 8:38下午
I'm with you. Guy was coming out of shock, not real aware, and also paralyzed. I can believe he did t realize what was going on.
domremy 的回复
于 2017 年 06 月 10 日 8:07上午
What a stupid topic, I thought this trolling was left behind at the imdp forum.
OP you are a cunt.
DRDMovieMusings 的回复
于 2017 年 06 月 10 日 11:08上午
No, I'm not. I asked the question, and got some constructive answers (excluding yours).
If you are a snowflake who can't take the heat of a mature and legitimate question, go back to your safe space.