I hear they have plenty of white drunk men that want to rape in it so thats a win.

@OddRob said:

I hear they have plenty of white drunk men that want to rape in it so thats a win.

That's how I remember the 80s. 😁

GusGorman--

I'm sure you're being "cute", but the reason is that, if many folks were shown smoking casually as was common for the time (I assume this film takes place in 1984, I have not seen it)-- and with no ill health effects depicted --according to the elite wisdom of the MPAA, the film would have to receive an automatic "R" rating. If I recall correctly, this rule has been in place since about the late 1990s, and the X-Files movie of 1998 was one of the first (American) films to fall under these new rules. It retained its PG-13 rating (rather than going to an R) because the "Smoking Man" was mentioned (or shown, can't remember) to be suffering from cancer because of his smoking.

Oddly, American broadcast TV shows (regulated by the FCC) appear to be given a little more leeway in this regard.

@northcoast said:

GusGorman--

I'm sure you're being "cute", but the reason is that, if many folks were shown smoking casually as was common for the time (I assume this film takes place in 1984, I have not seen it)-- and with no ill health effects depicted --according to the elite wisdom of the MPAA, the film would have to receive an automatic "R" rating. If I recall correctly, this rule has been in place since about the late 1990s, and the X-Files movie of 1998 was one of the first (American) films to fall under these new rules. It retained its PG-13 rating (rather than going to an R) because the "Smoking Man" was mentioned (or shown, can't remember) to be suffering from cancer because of his smoking.

Oddly, American broadcast TV shows (regulated by the FCC) appear to be given a little more leeway in this regard.

So rape is allowed in a PG13 movie that takes place in 1984 but not smoking?

Are you serious?!!!

Again, I haven't seen the movie, but . . . yes. If the rape is not shown graphically. But, this is yet another reason why the MPAA rating system doesn't make sense. As you know, as far as other forms of violence, PG-13 films can get quite intense; in fact, to my mind at least, there are some PG-13 movies that are virtually indistinguishable from R-rated movies when it comes to violence-- but show someone smoking, who isn't shown suffering from it? That's an automatic "R".

Political correctness?

@acontributor said:

Gay/lesbian content can also influence a movie's rating I noticed.

I forgot there was a rape scene in this. I think maybe I fell asleep for part of it. I'm glad I missed it.

The only rape that took place here was the poor audience.

@OddRob said:

I hear they have plenty of white drunk men that want to rape in it so thats a win.

That's pretty ubiquitous to any time period, including our own.

@movie_nazi said:

@OddRob said:

I hear they have plenty of white drunk men that want to rape in it so thats a win.

That's pretty ubiquitous to any time period, including our own.

Nahh bro didnt you hear? #Timesup took care of all that.

@OddRob said:

@acontributor said:

Gay/lesbian content can also influence a movie's rating I noticed.

I forgot there was a rape scene in this. I think maybe I fell asleep for part of it. I'm glad I missed it.

The only rape that took place here was the poor audience.

And the body of the guy Steve inhabited.

@northcoast said:

Again, I haven't seen the movie, but . . . yes. If the rape is not shown graphically. But, this is yet another reason why the MPAA rating system doesn't make sense. As you know, as far as other forms of violence, PG-13 films can get quite intense; in fact, to my mind at least, there are some PG-13 movies that are virtually indistinguishable from R-rated movies when it comes to violence-- but show someone smoking, who isn't shown suffering from it? That's an automatic "R".

There is no rape at all in this movie.

@tlm550 said:

@northcoast said:

Again, I haven't seen the movie, but . . . yes. If the rape is not shown graphically. But, this is yet another reason why the MPAA rating system doesn't make sense. As you know, as far as other forms of violence, PG-13 films can get quite intense; in fact, to my mind at least, there are some PG-13 movies that are virtually indistinguishable from R-rated movies when it comes to violence-- but show someone smoking, who isn't shown suffering from it? That's an automatic "R".

There is no rape at all in this movie.

Some consider the last scene where WW has sex with 'Trevor', who is inhabiting another man's body, rape. Here's just one comment I found about it (there are plenty more):

"So Steve Trevor wakes up in an innocent man’s body and instead of trying to figure out how to return the guy to his own body they proceed to use the guy’s body to have sex? Isn’t that rape?"

@bratface said:

@tlm550 said:

@northcoast said:

Again, I haven't seen the movie, but . . . yes. If the rape is not shown graphically. But, this is yet another reason why the MPAA rating system doesn't make sense. As you know, as far as other forms of violence, PG-13 films can get quite intense; in fact, to my mind at least, there are some PG-13 movies that are virtually indistinguishable from R-rated movies when it comes to violence-- but show someone smoking, who isn't shown suffering from it? That's an automatic "R".

There is no rape at all in this movie.

Some consider the last scene where WW has sex with 'Trevor', who is inhabiting another man's body, rape. Here's just one comment I found about it (there are plenty more):

"So Steve Trevor wakes up in an innocent man’s body and instead of trying to figure out how to return the guy to his own body they proceed to use the guy’s body to have sex? Isn’t that rape?"

Also if you think about it, and it was a girl's body being used for sex, wouldn't most people consider that rape? So a male body being used shouldn't be considered any different.

@Innovator said:

@bratface said:

@tlm550 said:

@northcoast said:

Again, I haven't seen the movie, but . . . yes. If the rape is not shown graphically. But, this is yet another reason why the MPAA rating system doesn't make sense. As you know, as far as other forms of violence, PG-13 films can get quite intense; in fact, to my mind at least, there are some PG-13 movies that are virtually indistinguishable from R-rated movies when it comes to violence-- but show someone smoking, who isn't shown suffering from it? That's an automatic "R".

There is no rape at all in this movie.

Some consider the last scene where WW has sex with 'Trevor', who is inhabiting another man's body, rape. Here's just one comment I found about it (there are plenty more):

"So Steve Trevor wakes up in an innocent man’s body and instead of trying to figure out how to return the guy to his own body they proceed to use the guy’s body to have sex? Isn’t that rape?"

Also if you think about it, and it was a girl's body being used for sex, wouldn't most people consider that rape? So a male body being used shouldn't be considered any different.

People still think that a man cannot be raped, ridiculous but true.

@acontributor said:

@bratface said:

@tlm550 said:

@northcoast said:

Again, I haven't seen the movie, but . . . yes. If the rape is not shown graphically. But, this is yet another reason why the MPAA rating system doesn't make sense. As you know, as far as other forms of violence, PG-13 films can get quite intense; in fact, to my mind at least, there are some PG-13 movies that are virtually indistinguishable from R-rated movies when it comes to violence-- but show someone smoking, who isn't shown suffering from it? That's an automatic "R".

There is no rape at all in this movie.

Some consider the last scene where WW has sex with 'Trevor', who is inhabiting another man's body, rape. Here's just one comment I found about it (there are plenty more):

"So Steve Trevor wakes up in an innocent man’s body and instead of trying to figure out how to return the guy to his own body they proceed to use the guy’s body to have sex? Isn’t that rape?"

Actually there is already a word for that. It is called possession. Rape is something entirely different.

Possession is the how. The non-consensual sex is the why it's rape. It's pretty much akin to knocking out someone with drugs and having sex with their sleeping body, which by law is rape.