@Isserley said:

I'm glad to hear that I'm not the only one who feels this way. I loved the LOTR movies but I hated this.

I am a HUGE fan of the LOTR films. I have the extended version and have watched them several times. That's saying something when each film is about 4 hours long. I never read The Hobbit but I bet it didn't have half the crap in these three films. I have seen the fan edit where he manages to condense the three films into one 4 hour film. He did a pretty good job but there was just things that felt weird but it does prove the point that The Hobbit should have no way been three films. I think two films would have been plenty. It's also kinda unfair to compare The Hobbit to LOTR since LOTR is a bit more edgier and geared toward more to adults while The Hobbit is more for children. But man, those CGI orcs. Especially the main baddie, Azog the Defiler, he looked terrible. Like a friggin' cartoon practically. I can't believe PJ saw that and was satisfied with it. It's like the Star Wars prequels all over again. People too scared shitless to tell him this shit sucks during production.

@movie_nazi said: I never read The Hobbit but I bet it didn't have half the crap in these three films. I have seen the fan edit where he manages to condense the three films into one 4 hour film.

I did read The Hobbit. Here is a list of things that were not in the book. It is by no means inclusive:

Azog the Defiler. They were not pursued by orcs.

Radagast the Brown. The nature loving wizard wasn't even mentioned.

Legolas. Not there.

Lady Galadriel. Not there.

Saruman. Not there, either.

Taurial. There was absolutely no dwarf-elf love story happening.

The king of the goblins was not campy. He was genuinely frightening.

The barrel ride down the river did not resemble a video game.

Sand worms. There was nothing like that at the battle of five armies.

Bard the Bowman's kids. He may have had some, but they weren't in the book. Bard was never in jail.

The dwarves did not use a Rube Goldberg type trap to try and defeat the dragon. In the book, the dwarves don't fight the dragon at all.

@Damienracer said:

@movie_nazi said:

One of the most redeeming qualities of the orcs in the LOTR was just have fuckin' creepy they were. They seriously gave me the willies and I am not easily scared. The orcs in The Hobbit films are friggin' terrible. All CGI and not very creepy at all. IMO they should have used the CGI more sparingly and I watched this in the movies at that higher frame rate which made them look even more phony. Of course, you would have to use it for Smaug and the trolls but not the orcs. At least not on close to the face scenes. It really took me out of the movie. Hard to believe PJ had so many follies with the Hobbit films including too many films, a forced romance, and overuse of CGI.

They were meant to look terrible.

What do you mean? Are you saying the CGI was meant to look terrible?

They didn't look bad, but they did look like cartoons. The whole movie looked and felt like a cartoon.

The Lord of the Rings trilogy felt more realistic even though unrealistic events were happening.

I didn't hate the Hobbit movie, but I did feel it was somewhat lacking.

@sukhisoo said:

They didn't look bad, but they did look like cartoons. The whole movie looked and felt like a cartoon.

The Lord of the Rings trilogy felt more realistic even though unrealistic events were happening.

I didn't hate the Hobbit movie, but I did feel it was somewhat lacking.

This is exactly my point. When I first saw LOTR and when they showed the orcs, I was genuinely creeped out by them. The Hobbit comes out 15 years later, so the effects should have improved in the sense of realism and creeping me out and to me they just looked like cartoons. I also didn't hate The Hobbit movie but I think I may have watched it twice since it's release and I had watched LOTR many more times with the same amount of time which goes to show how much I enjoyed each.