Item: Once Upon a Deadpool
Language: en-US
Type of Problem: Duplicate
Extra Details: This should really just be logged as an alternate title for Deadpool 2 rather than having its own entry. It’s integrally the same film with additional material - in that respect, no different to an unrated or director’s cut.
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Réponse de el_duderino81
le 11 décembre 2018 à 19h35
Note that IMDb and the BBFC do not consider it a separate film and list it as an alternate name for Deadpool 2.
Réponse de el_duderino81
le 23 décembre 2018 à 16h43
Not sure why this report has been totally ignored by admins?
Réponse de Banana
le 23 décembre 2018 à 18h04
We discussed your report in the mods forums with Travis. There are good arguments for and against deleting it, but it is ultimately Travis' decision. Not sure if he had time to think about it some more.![santa_tone2](/assets/emojis/v8/1f385-1f3fc.svg)
Réponse de SimonV
le 23 décembre 2018 à 18h11
Hello el_duderino81,
From the contribution bible:
Usually, alternative versions are not allowed in TMDB. Although, there are exceptions when alternative version is significantly different with exclusive footages.
I would be in favor of allowing "Once Upon a Deadpool" as it has a quite different subplot (as I understand it, I did not see it), additional actors and new scenes. It is also advertised as a movie on its own by Fox, not just an alternative cut.
Anyway, it will have to get other moderators feedback and as it is written in the contribution bible, Travis has the final decision.
Edit: @Banana answered while I was writing this answer. Let's wait for Travis decision.
Réponse de el_duderino81
le 23 décembre 2018 à 19h18
Thanks for the responses. I wasn’t aware so much was going on behind the scenes! Having seen it, there’s only one additional actor (Fred Savage) and about 15 minutes of new footage, balanced out by some cuts to existing material. It’s no different to, say, the director’s cut of Daredevil (2003) restoring an entire subplot featuring Coolio that was excised for the theatrical release or, likewise, X-Men: Days of Future Past: The Rogue Cut (which also added an actor, got its own seperate release and re-added a subplot - yet doesn’t have its own listing on TMDb). The viewing experience of OUAD, to me, wasn’t significantly different to the theatrical cut or the extended home release cut. It was just a re-edit with Christmas branding. I would totally come down on the side of this being treated exactly the same as any other alternate cut of the same film (with the exception of something like Superman II: The Richard Donner Cut, which has significant structural changes and, indeed, a change in director). The problem I see with including this as its own entity is that it skews stats. It gives actors and crew an extra credit for the same film twice in the same year. The way it stands it would suggest that if I watched Deadpool 2 and Once Upon a Deadpool, I would have seen two different Josh Brolin films (as well as many, many other actors) despite him not contributing anything new to the OUAD version. Ryan Reynolds is the only actor to contribute to both cuts. The film has been a clever bit of marketing in making audiences think it’s a different film but ratings boards/IMDb/me (😉) don’t agree.
Réponse de lineker
le 24 décembre 2018 à 08h43
For the record, my opinion is that it should be deleted. However, I think a compromise solution suggested was to allow the entry to stay temporarily until the end of the theatrical run. For a special case that's something I could get behind and maybe that solution is already in play. Does anyone know how long this version is expected to stay in theaters?
Réponse de el_duderino81
le 24 décembre 2018 à 16h43
I think this sounds like a fair compromise. I know its release was a ‘limited engagement’ and, from what I can see, it seems to end today: https://birthmoviesdeath.com/2018/11/05/its-a-christmas-miracle-once-upon-a-deadpool-hits-theaters-in-december
Réponse de tmdb56737802
le 15 janvier 2019 à 23h54
The Blu-ray release, the Fox website, and even the Blu-ray.com review rate this as a different entry, not just a different cut.
In my opinion, the fact that the MPAA rated both independently different, is cause enough for a separate entry. This isn't just a case of 'theatrical' and 'unrated' cuts, where no nudity is shown in theatrical, or perhaps some very crude remarks are saved for the unrated version. This was cut with the complete intention of having a coherent plot and film, while dropping the MPAA rating for younger audiences.
There should also be discussion about how this was played in theaters standalone, treatment that almost any film will not receive from a studio. Combined with the fact this release would have had it's own budget, crew, etc and I think you should arrive at the conclusion this is a separate film.