This guy keeps making goofy comedies, where's the old De Niro who SHOVES A GUN UP A COSBY KID'S SNATCH AND PULLS THE FÜCKING TRIGGER!?
He's really lowered himself these days.
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Reply by Ghost in the Shell
on Maret 16, 2017 at 8:49 PM
Existential Crisis. Realizing that his life is almost over and there was no point to it.
Reply by movie_nazi
on April 21, 2017 at 10:20 PM
Huh? When did Deniro do this?
Reply by movie_nazi
on April 21, 2017 at 11:27 PM
Nope never happened. I know this movie well. The movie flew over someone's head.
Reply by Drooch
on April 24, 2017 at 2:26 AM
We don't see it happen, but the fat detective says 'unless that isn't your gun up her snatch' to Rourke when he returns to his room at the end, while De Niro secretly sits outside (clean shaven and in black robes). In the previous scene he picked up Rourke's gun and went to snatch-blast the Cosby Kid to frame him (so he'll go to the chair, whereupon Cypher will finally collect his soul).
Reply by movie_nazi
on April 24, 2017 at 10:38 AM
Wrong man. Rourke's character himself did all the killings. Deniro's character, Louis Cypher (Lucifer), even says at the 1:45:15 mark when Angel goes, "I didn't kill Krusemark! I didn't Margaret! I didn't kill no one!" , "Oh, I'm afraid you did Johnny. All killed by your own hand. Guided by me, of course. " Satan (Deniro) has implied that he commits no murders himself (as is common knowledge) but simply "guides" men into committing these acts as this is his life's mission. So no, Lucifer did not commit any of the murderous acts in the film, Johnny Favorite (Angel) did.
Reply by Drooch
on April 27, 2017 at 4:18 AM
Yes, but it's different after the revelation. De Niro picks up Johnny's gun and heads off, moments later to be seen outside the hotel room where Epiphay's corpse lies on the bed with the 'gun up her snatch'. Are you suggesting De Niro found her dead and shoved it up there?
Reply by movie_nazi
on April 27, 2017 at 9:27 AM
Yes, because as Johnny realizes the acts he's done and they show the audience as he one by one kills all his victims, Epiphany is counted among them.
Reply by Drooch
on April 30, 2017 at 5:48 AM
That makes sense. Now, after De Niro shoved the gun up her dead snatch, do you think he just left it there, or did he pull the trigger?
Reply by movie_nazi
on April 30, 2017 at 11:53 AM
Well, there was a significant amount of blood and when they show Angel killing her he is strangling her so I would venture to guess that yes, he did pull the trigger.
Reply by Drooch
on Mei 11, 2017 at 8:53 PM
I which case my original statement stands. De Niro did, indeed, SHOVE A GUN UP A COSBY KID'S SNATCH AND PULL THE FÜCKING TRIGGER!
I miss the old De Niro.
Reply by tmdb53400018
on Mei 11, 2017 at 9:12 PM
This is the most interesting argument I've ever read about the film. You do see De Niro's claw pick up the gun for sure; I don't know about him heading off. I had always thought that Johnny killed his own daughter, but now I think that De Niro (Lucifer) did it!
Reply by Drooch
on Mei 14, 2017 at 9:28 PM
Well I think we settled it above. Rourke kills them all, including his daughter, but De Niro swipes his gun and heads over to do a snatch blast on Epiphany's corpse so there's incriminating evidence. Johnny gets the chair and Lucifer gets his soul. Job done.
Reply by FrankSmith
on Oktober 21, 2019 at 1:55 PM
should be good in the Irishman