@Drooch said:

This guy keeps making goofy comedies, where's the old De Niro who SHOVES A GUN UP A COSBY KID'S SNATCH AND PULLS THE FÜCKING TRIGGER!?

He's really lowered himself these days.

Existential Crisis. Realizing that his life is almost over and there was no point to it.

@Drooch said:

This guy keeps making goofy comedies, where's the old De Niro who SHOVES A GUN UP A COSBY KID'S SNATCH AND PULLS THE FÜCKING TRIGGER!?

Huh? When did Deniro do this?

@mechajutaro said:

where's the old De Niro who SHOVES A GUN UP A COSBY KID'S SNATCH AND PULLS THE FÜCKING TRIGGER!?

Don't recall BobbyD maligning Denise in such a fashion at any point during AH's runtime.

Nope never happened. I know this movie well. The movie flew over someone's head.

@movie_nazi said:

@Drooch said:

This guy keeps making goofy comedies, where's the old De Niro who SHOVES A GUN UP A COSBY KID'S SNATCH AND PULLS THE FÜCKING TRIGGER!?

Huh? When did Deniro do this?

We don't see it happen, but the fat detective says 'unless that isn't your gun up her snatch' to Rourke when he returns to his room at the end, while De Niro secretly sits outside (clean shaven and in black robes). In the previous scene he picked up Rourke's gun and went to snatch-blast the Cosby Kid to frame him (so he'll go to the chair, whereupon Cypher will finally collect his soul).

@Drooch said:

@movie_nazi said:

@Drooch said:

This guy keeps making goofy comedies, where's the old De Niro who SHOVES A GUN UP A COSBY KID'S SNATCH AND PULLS THE FÜCKING TRIGGER!?

Huh? When did Deniro do this?

We don't see it happen, but the fat detective says 'unless that isn't your gun up her snatch' to Rourke when he returns to his room at the end, while De Niro secretly sits outside (clean shaven and in black robes). In the previous scene he picked up Rourke's gun and went to snatch-blast the Cosby Kid to frame him (so he'll go to the chair, whereupon Cypher will finally collect his soul).

Wrong man. Rourke's character himself did all the killings. Deniro's character, Louis Cypher (Lucifer), even says at the 1:45:15 mark when Angel goes, "I didn't kill Krusemark! I didn't Margaret! I didn't kill no one!" , "Oh, I'm afraid you did Johnny. All killed by your own hand. Guided by me, of course. " Satan (Deniro) has implied that he commits no murders himself (as is common knowledge) but simply "guides" men into committing these acts as this is his life's mission. So no, Lucifer did not commit any of the murderous acts in the film, Johnny Favorite (Angel) did.

We don't see it happen, but the fat detective says 'unless that isn't your gun up her snatch' to Rourke when he returns to his room at the end, while De Niro secretly sits outside (clean shaven and in black robes). In the previous scene he picked up Rourke's gun and went to snatch-blast the Cosby Kid to frame him (so he'll go to the chair, whereupon Cypher will finally collect his soul).

Wrong man. Rourke's character himself did all the killings. Deniro's character, Louis Cypher (Lucifer), even says at the 1:45:15 mark when Angel goes, "I didn't kill Krusemark! I didn't Margaret! I didn't kill no one!" , "Oh, I'm afraid you did Johnny. All killed by your own hand. Guided by me, of course. " Satan (Deniro) has implied that he commits no murders himself (as is common knowledge) but simply "guides" men into committing these acts as this is his life's mission. So no, Lucifer did not commit any of the murderous acts in the film, Johnny Favorite (Angel) did.

Yes, but it's different after the revelation. De Niro picks up Johnny's gun and heads off, moments later to be seen outside the hotel room where Epiphay's corpse lies on the bed with the 'gun up her snatch'. Are you suggesting De Niro found her dead and shoved it up there?

@Drooch said:

Yes, but it's different after the revelation. De Niro picks up Johnny's gun and heads off, moments later to be seen outside the hotel room where Epiphay's corpse lies on the bed with the 'gun up her snatch'. Are you suggesting De Niro found her dead and shoved it up there?

Yes, because as Johnny realizes the acts he's done and they show the audience as he one by one kills all his victims, Epiphany is counted among them.

Yes, because as Johnny realizes the acts he's done and they show the audience as he one by one kills all his victims, Epiphany is counted among them.

That makes sense. Now, after De Niro shoved the gun up her dead snatch, do you think he just left it there, or did he pull the trigger?

Well, there was a significant amount of blood and when they show Angel killing her he is strangling her so I would venture to guess that yes, he did pull the trigger.

@movie_nazi said:

Well, there was a significant amount of blood and when they show Angel killing her he is strangling her so I would venture to guess that yes, he did pull the trigger.

I which case my original statement stands. De Niro did, indeed, SHOVE A GUN UP A COSBY KID'S SNATCH AND PULL THE FÜCKING TRIGGER!

I miss the old De Niro.

@Drooch said:

We don't see it happen, but the fat detective says 'unless that isn't your gun up her snatch' to Rourke when he returns to his room at the end, while De Niro secretly sits outside (clean shaven and in black robes). In the previous scene he picked up Rourke's gun and went to snatch-blast the Cosby Kid to frame him (so he'll go to the chair, whereupon Cypher will finally collect his soul).

Wrong man. Rourke's character himself did all the killings. Deniro's character, Louis Cypher (Lucifer), even says at the 1:45:15 mark when Angel goes, "I didn't kill Krusemark! I didn't Margaret! I didn't kill no one!" , "Oh, I'm afraid you did Johnny. All killed by your own hand. Guided by me, of course. " Satan (Deniro) has implied that he commits no murders himself (as is common knowledge) but simply "guides" men into committing these acts as this is his life's mission. So no, Lucifer did not commit any of the murderous acts in the film, Johnny Favorite (Angel) did.

Yes, but it's different after the revelation. De Niro picks up Johnny's gun and heads off, moments later to be seen outside the hotel room where Epiphay's corpse lies on the bed with the 'gun up her snatch'. Are you suggesting De Niro found her dead and shoved it up there?

This is the most interesting argument I've ever read about the film. You do see De Niro's claw pick up the gun for sure; I don't know about him heading off. I had always thought that Johnny killed his own daughter, but now I think that De Niro (Lucifer) did it!

This is the most interesting argument I've ever read about the film. You do see De Niro's claw pick up the gun for sure; I don't know about him heading off. I had always thought that Johnny killed his own daughter, but now I think that De Niro (Lucifer) did it!

Well I think we settled it above. Rourke kills them all, including his daughter, but De Niro swipes his gun and heads over to do a snatch blast on Epiphany's corpse so there's incriminating evidence. Johnny gets the chair and Lucifer gets his soul. Job done.

should be good in the Irishman