I was unaware of the backstory/roots of this series before watching on Netflix. So are you saying that the comic book itself (that this is based on) is a rip off of the Dark Phoenix Saga? I don't follow X-Men all that closely, and while the series does seem to combine a bunch of other seen-before elements, to me it had something unique--if forgettable--to offer.
It was clear by the second episode they were redoing the Dark Phoenix Saga.
Yeah, now you mention it. I didn't think about the Dark Phoenix comparisons before. In fairness though, it is a pretty good X-Men clone. Not exceptional, but pretty good. I'll be watching season 2.
Here's why I don't care that UA is derivative of X-Men: It's well written, well performed, beautifully shot with wonderfully motivated camera and lighting choices, surprising, and in season 2 every time powers come into play I'm cheering out loud because it feels so hard earned.
Derivative works that bring nothing new to the table can go straight to hell, of course. When I'm in the moment with these characters I'm not thinking X-Men. I'm totally engaged. The only explanation I have for why some unoriginal work pulls me out of the moment and others don't is that, when you boil it all down, absolutely nothing is original. X-Men is a retelling of an old story. So is Star Wars. So is Being John Malkovich. So is Lord of the Rings. So is the Bible. Either there's enough good stuff there that the derivation is unnoticeable or there isn't, and it's different from person to person.
For me this show is the absolute bollocks, I love every moment in it, and the similarities to X-Men have zero effect on my enjoyment.
There are over 7B people on the planet. So, for those of us who have never hear of, or seen, X-Men...not a problem. Thankfully, we can like it for what it is…and not hate it in comparison to something else.
Here's why I don't care that UA is derivative of X-Men: It's well written, well performed, beautifully shot with wonderfully motivated camera and lighting choices, surprising, and in season 2 every time powers come into play I'm cheering out loud because it feels so hard earned.
Derivative works that bring nothing new to the table can go straight to hell, of course. When I'm in the moment with these characters I'm not thinking X-Men. I'm totally engaged. The only explanation I have for why some unoriginal work pulls me out of the moment and others don't is that, when you boil it all down, absolutely nothing is original. X-Men is a retelling of an old story. So is Star Wars. So is Being John Malkovich. So is Lord of the Rings. So is the Bible. Either there's enough good stuff there that the derivation is unnoticeable or there isn't, and it's different from person to person.
For me this show is the absolute bollocks, I love every moment in it, and the similarities to X-Men have zero effect on my enjoyment.
This show doesn't remind me of any shows/movies I've seen; even so, I agree with you on principle. I’m just not the kind of person who’d watch something about a brother-murdering-his-brother and declare it a “Cain and Abel" rip-off.
Just finished season 2 and thought it was better than season 1. Better and more unique choices of music. There didn't seem to be any filler episodes whereas I found season 1 did follow it's great 1st episode with a few meandering ones as it took a little time to hit it's stride. Season 2 found and kept it's momentum all the way through.
I don't know about the X-man vibe. I got sort of a Watchmen: the Teen Years thing overall. It got a bit Alphabet-retarded in the 1st season, but nothing that was close to intolerable. The plot was more than story-based enough to watch the second season where the Alphabet taint really tried to gain some head way. But, all in all, I did not get a lacking Eternals, Birds of Prey, Loki, Black Widow, or Wandavision vibe from the show. It wasn't like, "Oh god! Here we go again with the forced gay identification 'thing.'" No. The story and sub plots all went together nicely. It's as I was saying in another review, if they can keep the story ahead of the alphabet-taint and identity politics, and keep the bi-racial chick from eating everything within her line of sight off camera at the staff buffet table, the show should make movie cult status.
Reply by Daddie0
on сакавік 4, 2019 at 2:19 PM
I was unaware of the backstory/roots of this series before watching on Netflix. So are you saying that the comic book itself (that this is based on) is a rip off of the Dark Phoenix Saga? I don't follow X-Men all that closely, and while the series does seem to combine a bunch of other seen-before elements, to me it had something unique--if forgettable--to offer.
Reply by Movie Queen41
on сакавік 10, 2019 at 11:40 AM
Yes. And it has done that storyline better than Dark Phoenix will.
Reply by Nygma-0999
on сакавік 24, 2019 at 4:26 PM
At least its a good ripoff of x-men.
Reply by manfromatlantis
on ліпень 8, 2020 at 12:40 PM
and not a rip of the cloney batman.
Reply by NotMe
on ліпень 31, 2020 at 6:26 AM
If this is a clone then we need more clones. Good s#1¤t
Reply by JustinJackFlash
on ліпень 31, 2020 at 7:46 AM
Yeah, now you mention it. I didn't think about the Dark Phoenix comparisons before. In fairness though, it is a pretty good X-Men clone. Not exceptional, but pretty good. I'll be watching season 2.
Reply by Alpuccino
on жнівень 2, 2020 at 7:08 AM
Here's why I don't care that UA is derivative of X-Men: It's well written, well performed, beautifully shot with wonderfully motivated camera and lighting choices, surprising, and in season 2 every time powers come into play I'm cheering out loud because it feels so hard earned.
Derivative works that bring nothing new to the table can go straight to hell, of course. When I'm in the moment with these characters I'm not thinking X-Men. I'm totally engaged. The only explanation I have for why some unoriginal work pulls me out of the moment and others don't is that, when you boil it all down, absolutely nothing is original. X-Men is a retelling of an old story. So is Star Wars. So is Being John Malkovich. So is Lord of the Rings. So is the Bible. Either there's enough good stuff there that the derivation is unnoticeable or there isn't, and it's different from person to person.
For me this show is the absolute bollocks, I love every moment in it, and the similarities to X-Men have zero effect on my enjoyment.
Reply by Daddie0
on жнівень 2, 2020 at 8:24 PM
I would even add...and it's hard to do so with the expansive superhero universe...that I prefer UA to XMen.
I think for me it's the grit...yeah, probably the grit.
Reply by FormerlyKnownAs
on жнівень 19, 2020 at 2:46 PM
X-Men Clone?
There are over 7B people on the planet. So, for those of us who have never hear of, or seen, X-Men...not a problem. Thankfully, we can like it for what it is…and not hate it in comparison to something else.
Reply by TheVorlon
on жнівень 19, 2020 at 9:25 PM
It sucks for what it is.
Reply by FormerlyKnownAs
on жнівень 20, 2020 at 11:26 AM
I don't think it sucks at all; but then...
"One man's meat is another man's poison."
Reply by FormerlyKnownAs
on жнівень 20, 2020 at 12:32 PM
This show doesn't remind me of any shows/movies I've seen; even so, I agree with you on principle. I’m just not the kind of person who’d watch something about a brother-murdering-his-brother and declare it a “Cain and Abel" rip-off.
Reply by JustinJackFlash
on верасень 17, 2020 at 11:19 AM
Just finished season 2 and thought it was better than season 1. Better and more unique choices of music. There didn't seem to be any filler episodes whereas I found season 1 did follow it's great 1st episode with a few meandering ones as it took a little time to hit it's stride. Season 2 found and kept it's momentum all the way through.
Reply by DallasBob
on люты 16, 2022 at 3:20 AM
I don't know about the X-man vibe. I got sort of a Watchmen: the Teen Years thing overall. It got a bit Alphabet-retarded in the 1st season, but nothing that was close to intolerable. The plot was more than story-based enough to watch the second season where the Alphabet taint really tried to gain some head way. But, all in all, I did not get a lacking Eternals, Birds of Prey, Loki, Black Widow, or Wandavision vibe from the show. It wasn't like, "Oh god! Here we go again with the forced gay identification 'thing.'" No. The story and sub plots all went together nicely. It's as I was saying in another review, if they can keep the story ahead of the alphabet-taint and identity politics, and keep the bi-racial chick from eating everything within her line of sight off camera at the staff buffet table, the show should make movie cult status.